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نظريات خوانندگان مقالهء گزينه های انحلال حکومت اسلامی
Dear Mr Nooriala, ======================================
با درود ماهان بيستم مهر1386 ======================================
آقای نوری علا ناشناس ـ 21 مهر 1386
====================================== ba salam va arezooxe toofighe khedmat be iran va mellete iran neveshtehayae shoma ra mikhanam va barkhi az matalebe anra taghib mikonam az jomleh maghaleh akhir ke dar seite gooya darj shod.masaleh asasi va hassas ast.dar yek barkhorde ebtediee do nokteh be zehne khanandeh motebader migardad,awal inke in doolat haye sarmaye dari hastand ke hameye donya ra be ashoob mikeshand ta ba kontorol bar manabee enerji soltehe khood ra bar donya hakem konand .che khoon ha ke rikhteh nashodeh va che viranihaee ke bebar nayamadeh ast ke khoode shoma behtar az man midanid.bichreh mellathaye anan ke manafee gheshre koochake sarmayeh dar ra ba manafee khood yeksan miengarand. ghane kardane in mellat ha mosavi ast ba az bain raftane manafee an gheshre hakem. nemidanam az nazare shoma in pishnahad ta che andazeh amali ast va khoode shoma che rah haye amali ra baraye tahaghoghe in pishnahad dar nazar darid. dowomin noktehee ke az neveshtehe shoma hasel migardad in ast ke an bakhsh az oppozisione khosh khial ke bavar dard in hokoomat ha hazerand az manafee kootah modat va derazmodate khodeshan sarfenazar kardeh vatalash mikonand be anha komak namoodeh ta demokrasi va hakemiate milli ra be keshvare khod baz gardanand. in ja ast ke nirooye bakhshi az mokhalefin jomoorie eslami sarfe davidan be donbale sarab mishvad, chizike ham dolathaye ghodratmand ra razi va khoshl mikonad va ham mostabedine neshasteh bar ghodrat ra ke dar iran hastand. az inke in yaddasht toolani shod ozr mikhaham H.M.H 13 Octobre 2007
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نکات جالبی را مطرح کرده اند آقای نوری اعلی، به ویژه در
مورد تحریم نفتی. در زمینه ی تاثیر عامل نفت بر سیاست ایران خوشبختانه پایان
نامه های زیادی نوشته شده است و "استقلال" دولت را از مردم، به ویژه در دوره ی
دوم فرمانرانی شاه فقید، که البته می تواند مورد مناقشه باشد، به همین
خودبسندگی مالی و افزایش درامد از طریق نفت بازبرد داده اند. مفاهیمی چون دولت
های نفتی و یا دیکتاتوری های نفتی در یک چنین چارچوب نظری ای به وجود آمده اند.
چندین سال پیش نیز بهروز صوراصرافیل از واژه ی فاشیسم نفتی (پتروفاشیسم) سود
برد. به هر حال نه تنها رژیم شیعی، بلکه هر دولت دیگر در شرایط کنونی ایران،
بدون نفت، فرومی پاچد. سیامک ایرانی (غریبه ی آشنا) 12 اکتبر 2007 ====================================== Baa vojoud-e kami saadeh andishi dar baarehye doraan-e pishaamodern (albatteh nemishavad taarikh raa dar yek maghaaleh tahlil kard), in maghaaleh bekhobi tavaanesteh sharaayet-e jaari raa dar iraan j'am bandi konad va did raa roshantar konad. Gharb did keh baa sahmieh bandi-e benzin mardom cheh kardand. Man fekr mikonam hatta laazem nist keh tahrim-e nafti bar gharaar beshavad. Aghar jeloy-e benzin raa begirand shaayad kaafi baashad. Haal inke cheraa gharb inraa midaanad vali amal nemikonad baayad aashi keh baraay-e maa pokhtehand shootar az inhaa baashad. Porsesh-e mohemtar amma injaast keh bedoon-e rahbari-e che mardom shooresh kanand che "artesh rahbari raa bezanad" ki dolat raa khaahad gereft. Dar haal-e haazer neh kohmeini daarim nah rezaa khaan. Dr Omid Rahnemoud October 12, 2007 ====================================== نظريات خوانندگان سايت «ايرانيان دات کام» احکام قرونby Ebraz (not verified) on Sun Oct 14, 2007 09:36 AM PDT
احکام قرون وسطائی رایج مـذهبـی، تفکر و تزلزل فرهنگی
اسلامی، عامل اصلی انسان زدائی و ایران زدائی است! نتيجهء ۱۵۰۰ سال اشغال
اسلام و ۳ دهه سرکوب, تبليغ و ترويج آموزه های مذهب اسلامی _ شيعی، تربيت و
توليد موجوداتی است که مسئوليت شکنجه، سرکوب و کشتار اين قربانيان رژيم را
بعهده گرفته انــد! جمعی از اینان نیز برای تبلیغات تربیت شده اند و در
خارجند
آيا اين جانوران(شکنجه گران و جلادهای نقابـدار: پآسدار ان بسیجیها، لباس شخسی های صادراتی در این سایت منبری ضد ایرانی ساخته اند. آشکارا گفت: اسلامگــرائی انان برابر است با انسان زُدائی . این ارازل اسلامی در این سایت از سفارت رژیم سرچشمه میگیرند by Kamangir on Sun Oct 14, 2007 08:02 PM PDT Please do not forget that the current islamic-fascist regime of Iran, is composed of, maintained and supported by a social class unique to itself. They existed before the so called revolution and their origin is to be tarced to the arrival of Arabs to Iran. This may sound bizarre to some, but iran is a cultural and ethnical 'mix' of arabs and persians, and the current situation, is the result of the continous clash between these two very sifferent and antagonic forces. The stablishment of many arabic traibes from arabia into persia, after the fall of the sassanids, changed the fate of IRan for all times. Regards Oil embargo is the best solution! No war! by Traveler (not verified) on Mon Oct 15, 2007 11:02 AM PDT Oil embargo is the best solution that should be used against Iranian dictatorial regime----Let’s cut the main financial vain of this monster; and help people to freedom via this inexpensive avenue. Those people who believe that political and social changes in Iran has to be developed ONLY within the country either do not know about the Iranian history and current global political and economical forces, or they are taking advantage of Iranian mass ignorance about global changes and appealing to Iranian nationalistic sentiment to hold their own political power. by Jahanshah Rashidina (not verified) on Mon Oct 15, 2007 12:06 PM PDT Dr. Noorial I share your revolutionary and courageous proposition. Oil, instead of military attack or economic sanctions, would be an effective weapon, both for the West and Iranian people, to confront the plague of the IRI.
Iran holds 11% of the world’s oil reserves. Government revenue of oil is
70%. A great proportion of this national revenue is not invested to improve
the cause of people, but is mainly set aside to finance the repressive
organs and internal security services of the Mullahs’ regime. In short, Oil
income does not play an important role to improve national economy; rate of
inflation, and unemployment increases while line of poverty sinks. If the oil revenue were suddenly to drop, the repressive regime would lose its steady income and would have serious problems to invest its repressive machine to repress domestic population and finance international terrorism. Mullahs do not care about the extraction of Iranian oil wealth and hike the production — the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC), to which Iran belongs, agreed to hike output by 500,000 barrels per day from the next November. Mullahs know the risk of an international oil sanctions; they try to use the relatively expensive oil price, a barrel for 84 dollars, to export as much as possible. They are buying oil tankers from South Korea to increase their transport fleet and consequently oil transportation capacity to 11 million tons by 2010 which would put it at fourth position in the world.–the IRI will also increase its gas production over 80 million tons of liquefied par annum, according to National Iranian tanker Co (NITC). We know that interconnected global economies vitally depend on oil. The industrialised world, especially the US, is the main consumers of fuel. “Despite the deep economical interconnections, they are not always in harmony; the EU because of its intensive trade with Iran is not opposed hard sanctions on the IRI because of the following reasons are the: –Thanks to Iraqi occupation, US oil import can easily be achieved by opening the Iraqi oil spigot for as long as the US need. The occupation seems to ensure that Iraq will end up as an American oil exporter for the next decades, a guarantee for the US, but not the EU. – The EU remained cooperative with Iran after the Iranian revolution. The EU’s share of Iran’s total imports increased to 45%. EU trade with Iran has even expanded since Iran’s secret nuclear programme was exposed. The EU imports 40% Iran’s oil—the rest goes to Japan, China and other Asian countries. Under such economic considerations, the perspective of non-economical factors, IRI’s sponsored terrorism and nuclear programme did not seem to play an important role for the EU. European firms which supplied Saddam’s machine war, especially chemical weapons which were used against both Iranian troops and civilian Iraqi Kurds, went into trade with both countries after the war to rebuild the damaged infrastructures. Because of IRI’s nuclear ambitions, the U.N. Security Council has previously passed two sanctions resolutions against Iran for failing to halt uranium enrichment. The West and IRI’s friends, China and Russia offered a package of civil nuclear and, economic incentives if the Mullahs suspend the enrichment, but the regime stubbornly continues its atom ambition and very likely plans to build the bomb for its military ambitions. Now, we stand before new UN and, separate, EU sanctions against the IRI, and this time it seems more serious for Mullahs. The EU seems to approach US policy vis-a vis Iran. It is likely that new sanctions will be more serious and from now on oil seems to play an important role in the regime sanctions. Although Iran is the world’s fourth-largest crude oil exporter, it lacks refining capacity to meet domestic demand for gasoline. Rationing was introduced in an effort to curb consumption and cut the rising cost of importing fuel. In the light of international oil sanctions on Iranian, India has already shown ready to join the West, India imports Iranian crude oil and after refining it exports it to Iran. By avoiding the trade, India can play a curtail factor to paralyse Mullahs’ regime. According to Iran’s Oil Ministry, the country needs to import up to 15 million litres of gasoline a day for domestic consume. Before rationing was imposed, the domestic consume was estimated 75 million litres a day of gasoline, of which about 36 million was imported. Since June, consumption has dropped to a little more than 60 million litres day, Iranian officials have said. In the case of gasoline sanctions Iran’s domestic consummation can be hardly affected. Germany which is the European partner number one with the IRI seems to approach French position to join US / UK ones towards Iran. The German chancellor, Angela Merkel, told recently German daily Die Welt (a conservative German newspaper) “the Islamic Republic threatened the whole world and had to be contained”. She continued “I’m emphatically in favour of solving the problem through negotiations, but we also need to be ready to impose further sanctions if Iran does not give ground”. If oil sanction, as a new weapon of sanction, is imposed as a result of IRI’s nuclear row with the West, and it can render the IRI more vulnerable, it is also at the same time a lack of resource in the hand of the Mullahs to finance their repressive organs and a fair occasion for Iranian people to challenge the plague of the IRI. Mr. Nooriala, You are living in Stone Age by Uncle Irany (not verified) on Wed Oct 17, 2007 05:22 AM PDT Where did you get your education man? In Tel Aviv University? Go back there. That is where you belong, you Iran hater! Who will rule Iran afterwards? by Mehdi on Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:14 PM PDT There are so many people advocating the removal of the current regime. But in years, I have not met even one person who could come up with a suitable and workable replacement! It seems that everybody is busy planning the removal of this regime but nobody can even fathom what or who will take over. The most common response I have heard is, "anybody is better than these mullahs." Well I am not so sure about that. We did already take out Shah hoping "anybody would be better" and I don't think we were correct! I have not seen any individual who wants the regime out having any decent size support of people. As far as I know all so-called opposition groups are more interested in drawing their competition's blood than the current regime's - no matter how they justify it. I think if there was a workable regime to be established in Iran, such a regime should have established roots outside of Iran and would have grown with time until eventually the inevitable would happen. But people seem to realize that such a group will never be assembled, are always looking for shortcuts - ways to disable the current regime through some sort of force, be it sanctions or whatever. I think we need a leader first who is able to gather support of a large number of people. I think we need to establish the seed of that ideal civilization that we want to see in the future of Iran. I recommend discarding these force tactics and start setting an example - create that ideal Iran right now! I believe if a small group could set itself up as an example of an ideal group, it wouldn't take much time that they would grow very strong and wouldn't need to even mention force, never mind using it. Of course I am aware of all the difficulties in doing so and I am very aware of the viewpoint that "as long as this regime exists, such an ideal team cannot be created." But I don't buy it. I think during history there have been small groups of individuals who have proven otherwise, even if later they themselves became corrupt and collapsed. We need to pay attention to the fact that the human race has not quite figured out what life is about. We don't know much about human mind. I think we must address these questions before, or at least concurrent with our "forceful attempts" in order to make any real progress. Wars, slave-master type governments, irrationality, manipulations, these things have existed throughout the history - as some are mentioned in this article. Currently, and almost always in history, the governments of ALL countries in the world have been something other than servants of their people. Even in the US, supposedly the most democratic country in the world, people feel apathetic about their government. They don't even get excited about voting because no matter what they vote, it makes hardly any difference. Right now most Americans, despite government manipulation and mind control and media propaganda do not want war in Iraq, yet they have no control over their own government. So this issue is not an isolated issue. It is not just about Mullahs or whoever is supporting them in hiding. It is a lazy way to just sit outside the field and "analyze," find faults or point out obvious flaws. It is quite a different thing to actually establish a government or even a small group that is an example of fairness, ethics, compassion and all the great values that makes one feel proud. ====================================== نظريات خوانندگان سايت «بالاترين» کاربرانی که به لینک
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ضعف این حکومت واردات نیست که دقیقا همین صدور نفت برای بی نیازی از مردم است
از طرفی تحریم نفتی در واقع آغاز جنگ است. بدیهی است که حکومت از همه توان و اختیار خود برای بستن تنگه هرمز اقدام خواهد کرد. قیمت نفت در چنین شرایطی چقدر خواهد شد؟ در صورت وقوع چنین وضعیتی یا غرب تحریم نفتی ایران را لغو خواهد کرد(که بعید است) یا شپور جنگ به صدا در خواهد آمد. باور کنید جنگ همه آرزوی احمدی نژاد است. تنها راهی است که می تواند حکومت این طیف را تثبیت کند
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